Sanctuary from the Mad World

Blog EntryWhy I leftApr 6, '08 6:00 PM
for everyone

This and this posting brought back bad memories why I left home.  The frustration and helplessness turned to anger come seeping back.   

After getting my bachelor degree in 1996, I was determined to go home.  I figured, lots of people went to Asia, including Indonesia, as expats for better opportunities.  The environment was both exciting and exotic.  There were lots to learn and do and I wanted to be part of the action.  I would also be foolish to slave myself with some clerical jobs with little career prospect (among other things, let's be honest, due to my foreign status) when my degree will be valued highly in Indonesia and I could start ahead of my peers.  So, after a year's detour in Beijing, I went home.

I had a good job in a bank.  It sort of fixed my career path that I belong in Finance.  Then the financial crisis started but I had enormous fun, job-wise.  I was eager, young, though naive and the learning curve was steep.  Life was great personally, too, as a young woman under my parents' roof: meeting new friends, going to parties, dining out, staying up late, etc.  My parents took care of the annoying nitty gritties like extension of ID card, car registration, etc.  Basically it was just me, the little money I had, and my little car, courtesy of Dad.  The traffic jam wasn't bad at that time and to this day, I often romanticized about driving around town in those years, weaving in and out of traffic, being nimble and agile and speedy.  It was the best driving experience unlike the slow, sleepy chugging here. 

Sure I experienced little discomforts such as not finding products I used to have, not finding affordable English books and good English bookstores, not having good internet access, etc.  But my job allows me to travel to Singapore from time to time and I'd bring back suitcases full of books and things I couldn't find in Jakarta. I made do with whatever I had and survived well.

Somewhere around 2001, I got restless.  Unconsciously, I felt that the city wasn't welcoming anymore and things just went from bad to worse.  Traffic jam was getting unreasonable.  Maybe I grew up, but I began to notice things:  decisions were made in haphazard if not insane way.  No one cared about anything or anybody else:  if one was trapped in a traffic jam, tough luck.  If you were going the other way, let's laugh at those who are stuck because you'd outsmarted them.  The rich got their own special treatment of course, they didn't have to suffer like we do (like being allowed into the busway lane) and therefore they couldn't care less.  Money bought everything, including fraud and murder. 

The poor also don't care and think they deserve special treatment because they're poor.  Hitting a motorcycle is a cardinal sin, regardless of who is at fault.  The slumps can blast the speakers as loud as they want for an all-night party but the rich behind their gates can't even say a peep or else riots ensues.  Granted, the poor's life was so sad it is easier to look the other way than listen to their stories helplessly.  Sure a help is better than none but when do you stop?  There are just so many of them.  On the other side of the spectrum, people think it's almost chic to throw away food to be slim while there are starving, begging children at every junction asking for change.  The elite gets more and more lavish with their spending:  every new boutique/club/high-end restaurants are chock-full with people.  I wonder how the waitress or shop keeper, who often are not paid very highly, must feel to see these people eat their month's salary in one sitting.  

Customer has no right and it's even worse when faced with government and medical institutions.  They are either arrogant or pathetic.  Doctors, the police, and taxmen have absolute and unquestionable authorities.  They are god-like, perfect in every way with no mistake or weakness. 

People refuse to talk.  When they hold dialogues, it's often to skirt around issues.  TV is full of empty rhetorics and useless lectures from the so-called, self-proclaimed experts.  Constructive dialogues are practically unknown because we were conditioned not to question.  When fender bender occurs, instead of drawing each other's insurance policies, people wave guns on the streets.  

Compassion slowly disappears.  Once my newly arrived Indian boss and I were driving on Kuningan and witnessed an accident where a mini truck flipped to its side as we whizzed by.  The driver didn't stop.  My boss was astonished and I explained sheepishly to him that, in this town, people don't stop because we don't want to be tangled:  the police will demand money before releasing us as a witness and, if we bring the wounded to the hospital, we have to cover their medical bills before the hospital do anything.  

Then there's the hypocrisy:  people get increasingly religious but that is not reflected in daily lives with increased corruption, glorified views on extra marital affairs, and more TV programs on ghosts!  Celebrities are applauded for their charitable (and normally, religious-related) activities and soon, their nude pictures appear in the internet.  The so-called role models don religious attires only during the fasting month and dress seductively (their word, again) when overseas and fans still admire them.  The rest suffer the consequences:  innocent internet sites get a blanket ban, ridiculous, half-baked regulations mushroom.

These contradictions eat up my conscience.  I don't mind about the hardship but the moral decay, hypocrisy, and selfishness disturbed me the most.   In my last years, I told my husband I would end up dead.  I couldn't digest these anymore.  There was no reasoning in this country and I am a very strong believer in reasoning.  I also believe in clear, implementable rule to ensure a fair playing ground for everyone. I'm not naive to say that the rich in developing countries do not get their share of preferential treatment but at least the 80-20 rule applies.  I used to come home sobbing after spending 3 hours in a traffic jam, dizzy from the fumes.  I screamed equally to an extremely stubborn, greedy official and a helpless waitress.  I was going insane and numb and saw no way out of this mess.  We couldn't afford to live in the city to cut travelling time short so we, like millions of Jakartan, had to grin manically and bear it.  I was traumatized dealing with governmental and medical institutions (I still am).   I was afraid of being left on the street in case of accident.  I became very nervous all the time.

Occasionally, I complain about these to friend but no one saw the problems.  They all asked me to be patient because that's the way the city was (I abhor that shallow, insincere, thoughtless advice).  Some thought I just worshipped the western way of living.  Others told me not to change the world and just be grateful.  But we could change it!  If we want to.  Of course, no one cares because it's always other people's problems.

So with heavy heart, knowing that I'd be leaving my family behind, I asked a huge sacrifice from my husband and we agreed for me to take up this offer to work abroad.  

Life is really peaceful here and I cherish it.  I realize the difference when I call home.  My mother would discuss things like the traffic, the flood and these things do not cross my mind anymore.  Instead of complaining about traffic and a particular truck driver who tried to wiggle his way illegally in front of my car, I can discuss with my husband the American election or gossip about my day at work.  Instead of speaking to him on the phone about route to take due to possible flooding, I discuss what we want to have for dinner. 

I spend more time at home doing things I love:  trying out new recipes, reading, watching TV, or quietly enjoying my little apartment.  I go to bed not thinking of what route I need to take this time to beat the 3-in-1 or whether this time, I'd get robbed at an intersection.

The writer of this article is a dear friend and I admire her determination to go back and face the system, one bureaucratic mess at a time.  I admit I can't.  Some may think I'm a lesser person because instead of doing my bits, I run.  But if life is only once, I want the best for my life and, unfortunately, this is it.  Besides, if I truly believe it's going to change, who will make it?  Me and which army?

Leaving is truly a good decision for me and I'm glad my husband is also a convert now (as long as I cook his favourite food from home, I guess).  I don't mean to advocate living overseas but this is my story.  I realize how lucky I am to have this choice when I needed it and I can't wish enough for those who want this chance to get it as well. 

This year, I realize that I do not see this place behind a pretty, dreamy gauze of mist anymore.  As I ride the tram, as I walk my usual route home from work, as I meet my friends for coffee, I truly feel this place is my home and I no longer feel I'm blessed to be transported from the mess to this tranquility.   It is where I belong, for as long as the circumstances allow. 


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febee wrote on Apr 7
yuhuuuuuuuu aku pertamaaaaa...

Baca dulu ahk
febee wrote on Apr 7
Somewhere around 2001, I got restless. Unconsciously, I felt that the city wasn't welcoming anymore and things just went from bad to worse
Waaahh Ven..sekarang makin makin makin parah lagi...:(( :))
chicaluna wrote on Apr 7
orang itu punya pilihan..dan nggak ada orang lain yang bisa ngejudge pilihan yang udah loe pilih itu salah apa bener..
kalo gue punya kesempatan seperti loe, gue juga akan ambil keputusan yang sama..
*hugs*
febee wrote on Apr 7
I spend more time at home doing things I love: trying out new recipes, reading, watching TV, or quietly enjoying my little apartment. I go to bed not thinking of what route I need to take this time to beat the 3-in-1 or whether this time, I'd get robbed at an intersection.
Impian buat semua orang di jakarta Ven :). Dulu waktu gue masih bolak-balik bogor Jakarta gue menghabiskan waktu 5 jam untuk perjalanan ke kantor PP. *curhat colongan*, gak ada waktu buat ngapa-ngapain lagi.
oleole wrote on Apr 7
Ven, lu pilih apa yg terbaik buat dirimu dan lanjut saja. Memang membaca realita itu bikin miris. Kita sama2 harap things could change.
yikk wrote on Apr 7
I wonder how the waitress or shop keeper, who often are not paid very highly, must feel to see these people eat their month's salary in one sitting.
A guy who used to be an expat in Jkt told me he once tried to increase his pembantu's wages so it would be on par with upah minimum regional at the time (early 90s). Next thing he knew, his friendly neighbours - who always kept their ears to the ground - came round and said he was "disrupting the (labour) market"... What to do?? Anyway, that probably has nothing to do with your article :"> But I do think many of us expat-Indonesians share your feelings, Ven. Good writing! :))
sopjagung wrote on Apr 7
The hipocrisy level has just been notched higher. I'm posting this comment using a proxy server as my ISP (Indosat) won't let me open multiply anymore... all because an overzealous government official tried to ban access to Fitna :((
ronn1 wrote on Apr 7
Comment gue ? hehehe......... akhirnya kelaaar juga ngebacanya. Interesting, Ven, really.
kucingkembar wrote on Apr 7
*ikut merenungi*
ronn1 wrote on Apr 7
Aaaah... gue dong bisa ngakses MP ;))
chicaluna wrote on Apr 7
ronn1 said
Aaaah... gue dong bisa ngakses MP ;))
upper the understood we say accept give ron..
bookshop wrote on Apr 7
febee said
Waaahh Ven..sekarang makin makin makin parah lagi...:(( :))
Gitu yah Feb :(
bookshop wrote on Apr 7
dan nggak ada orang lain yang bisa ngejudge pilihan yang udah loe pilih itu salah apa bener..
Thanks Chic >
bookshop wrote on Apr 7
febee said
Dulu waktu gue masih bolak-balik bogor Jakarta gue menghabiskan waktu 5 jam untuk perjalanan ke kantor PP
Itu udah 1/4 hari yah Feb.. :(
bookshop wrote on Apr 7
oleole said
Kita sama2 harap things could change.
Iya yah Le.. mariiiii >:D
bookshop wrote on Apr 7
yikk said
he was "disrupting the (labour) market"...
Ahahahahahah ngerusak pasaran! :)) :)). That's true. In my case, it wasn't a friendly neighbour but a fellow expat in the office! I guess that fellow expat was too well-integrated :)).

Thanks Yik. Pardon the length. Too many things to be let out of my chest :p.
bookshop wrote on Apr 7
ronn1 said
gue dong bisa ngakses MP ;))
Huuu... belagu lo. Ntar kalo di jkt gak bisa access baru telp Sopi *lho* :D
Thanks Ron :D
bookshop wrote on Apr 7
*ikut merenungi*
*sediain sepiring tulang buat kunyah2*
bookshop wrote on Apr 7
I'm posting this comment using a proxy server as my ISP (Indosat) won't let me open multiply anymore...
Gila yah ini? Katanya demokrasi, katanya kebebasan berbicara, katanya... :(( Huuuh [-(
ronn1 wrote on Apr 7
upper the understood we say accept give ron..
Nah, ni bisa chic ?
ronn1 wrote on Apr 7
Gila yah ini? Katanya demokrasi, katanya kebebasan berbicara, katanya... :(( Huuuh [-(
jangan kuatir....bentar lagi juga dibuka.
chicaluna wrote on Apr 7
ronn1 said
Nah, ni bisa chic ?
masih bisa ron...semoga sih gak diblok ya...
delkery wrote on Apr 7
hmmm di baca dulu ya....
escoklat wrote on Apr 7
Eh beneran sih Ven..apalagi kalo udah kelamaan diluar negri..Udah ga biasa lagi deh di Jakarta :( setuju bgt sama tulisan elo.

Pengalaman2 gue juga bener2 'idup-mati' juga waktu gue di Jakarta..kalo gue cerita ke temen..pada bilang "becanda loe?" hihihi,
well Nyali gue sih udah ga segede dulu lagi kalo balik JKT..sekarang banyakan ngendon dirumah ajah atau ngemis dianter-jemput mobil. hahaha
phalaenopsis wrote on Apr 7
Fiuh jangankan perubahan drastis dengan pindah dari Jakarta ke Swiss. Dari Jakarta ke Medan aja udah kerasa banget. Ga ada lagi yang paling gua benci: Kemacetan dan ngabisin idup sia-sia di jalan. Cuma ada yang gua korbanin dan gua tangisin sampe sekarang sih. Teman-teman di Jakarta! Huaaaaaaa
bookshop wrote on Apr 7
delkery said
hmmm di baca dulu ya....
Silahkan :D. Rada panjang nih kali ini :p
bookshop wrote on Apr 7, edited on Apr 7
sekarang banyakan ngendon dirumah ajah atau ngemis dianter-jemput mobil. hahaha
Huahahha iya, sama. ini nih jeleknya. Jadi gak tahan banting :p. Nyokap gue selalu bilang? Ha? Supir? Masa kamu gak berani sih? :P :P :P
bookshop wrote on Apr 7
ngabisin idup sia-sia di jalan.
Huahahahah ini bener banget. Sia2 . Gue gak abis pikir sama si B itu yg bilang, macet gpp, toh ada DVD. Gue gak demen nonton, gimanding dong? :D
setiyono wrote on Apr 7
It is a tough call to decide where we want to stay for good....
One thing that makes me hard living here only because of living far apart with my parents.... :(
westlinn wrote on Apr 7
what a coincidence. last night hubby whined that we can't get rich here (he's joking), and i mentioned if we go back to jakarta we've become boss. but we personally know that if that happens we'll become what you've written above, ruthless, couldn't care less, don't have any compassions anymore, etc. i'm very glad to find a life companion who's on the same page as mine and we're very happy here despite the monotonous life!

untung aja elo pikirannya kayak gini, gak salah deh...
kucingkembar wrote on Apr 7
*sediain sepiring tulang buat kunyah2*
wahh... kalau renungan dalam seperti ini harusnya bukan tulang dooong.. tapi cat treats.... :P

mmmeeeoooong...
ronn1 wrote on Apr 7
Gue gak abis pikir sama si B itu yg bilang, macet gpp, toh ada DVD. Gue gak demen nonton,
Model gini sih, kalo menurut pengalaman guee (cieee...) si "B" temen Jesse itu judulnya mah, sirik !! coba deh elu pikir lagi, hehehe....
awam wrote on Apr 7
Simply to say less crowd less headache ... kalo kita mau kemana2 baru keluar rumah udah macet.. banjir... debu.. berisik.. bikin stres ... atau nggak merasa ada harapan, gak bisa mengembangkan diri disini maka pasti langsung pengin ngacir dari tempat kita berada deh.

Dengan ketenangan dan kenyamanan disana, keliatan banget Venny bisa mengembangkan diri dan lebih sukses.
Btw, pastilah disana juga gak semua indah, namanya hidup pastilah ada obstacles (which I like to say that obstacles is one of excitement of life.. ya gaak siih), tapi hambatan2 itu sejauh ini bisa diterima dan bahkan diatasi Venny and Jesse, dan disitu letak seninya hidup yah...

abah dulu udah 99% mau ke Oz, persyaratan udah lengkep semua. udah test IELTS dapet 5.5 (inglis abah yang pas2an ternyata gak parah2 amat), udah terdaftar di ACS (Australian Computer Society), dengan point for skill tinggi, yaitu 60 Computing Professional Systems Manager (sama ama gradenya oom hasan). apalagi di Perth ada kakak kandung yg bisa nanggung. wah bakalan lebih mudah deh. Saat ngisi form DIMIA (utk imigrasi sana) trus kepikiran banyak hal yg memberatkan untuk ninggalin indonesia, selain itu setelah nyoba dari deket ngeliat Perth (waktu skalian mo operasi mata), ternyata cara idupnya kurang cocok dg abah, belum lagi soal kultur, budaya dan agama (utk yang 3 itu abah orangnya susah beradaptasi hahahaha), ya udah batal dulu deh ke Perth, mungkin tempat laen lebih cocok misal melbourne (tapi kesana kalo diundang hasan aja deh) haha.. anyway umur produktif yang diterima ke Oz adalah max 45th, tapi lewat dari itu kalau punya jaminan dan tabungan yang cukup maka tetap bisa diterimalah. so mungkin kalo anak2 udah gede dan disini dah gak ada tanggungan baru deh abah ngacir kemana kek (itu juga kalo punya duit ahuahuahuhaua)

Jadilah abah tetep disini dulu. dan sementara ini karena semua pekerjaan abah bisa kontrol dari rumah, kalo ada apa2 staf abah yg dari site office malah yang dateng ke rumah, jadi abah gak terlalu ngerasain parahnya jakarta.

jadi sementara ini "idup mudah dengan kesegaran cinere" yo wis, yang ini aja dinikmatin dulu.

so semoga tambah betah disana ya Ven, dan tambah berkembang. Semoga Venny disana bisa jadi the real Venny. abah seneng baca blog yang ini.

Dan seperti biasa, jangan bosen2 bantuin abah nginglis yah (btw temen2, Venny ini sering bantuin inovassi utk nginglis loh, tapi abah juga gak brani sering2 minta tolong.. ntar dikira abah udah tua2 gak tau diri lagi.. ehuheuehuheue).
awam wrote on Apr 7
ronn1 said
Model gini sih, kalo menurut pengalaman guee (cieee...) si "B" temen Jesse itu judulnya mah, sirik !! coba deh elu pikir lagi, hehehe....
hmm.. kalo gw ngeliatnya si "B" itu bukan sirik sih.. tapi justru dia punya solusi alternative (bagi dia) dimana dia bisa merasakan enjoy dg DVDnya, jadi never care the crown outside there. tapi solusi tsb gak acceptable di Venny lantaran Venny gak demen nonton kan.
chicaluna wrote on Apr 7
awam said
tapi solusi tsb gak acceptable di Venny lantaran Venny gak demen nonton kan
nggak acceptable juga buat yang di mobilnya nggak ada tv dan dvd :p
awam wrote on Apr 7, edited on Apr 7
nggak acceptable juga buat yang di mobilnya nggak ada tv dan dvd :p
gimana kalo dibalik.. jangan mobil yang ada tvnya.. tapi cari tv yang dalemnya ada mobilnya jadi tvnya bisa jalan2 sendiri .. dan kita nontonnya sambil jogging.. haallaahhh... :))
ronn1 wrote on Apr 8
awam said
abah dulu udah 99% mau ke Oz, persyaratan udah lengkep semua. udah test IELTS dapet 5.5 (inglis abah yang pas2an ternyata gak parah2 amat), udah terdaftar di ACS (Australian Computer Society), dengan point for skill tinggi, yaitu 60 Computing Professional Systems Manager (sama ama gradenya oom hasan). apalagi di Perth ada kakak kandung yg bisa nanggung. wah bakalan lebih mudah deh. Saat ngisi form DIMIA (utk imigrasi sana) trus kepikiran banyak hal yg memberatkan untuk ninggalin indonesia, selain itu setelah nyoba dari deket ngeliat Perth
Gue kira elu beneran mau pindah pas elu cerita dulu; udah gue tunggu-tunggu...ternyataaaa *hiks*
titaying wrote on Apr 8
Great piece, Ven. I can feel your exasperation and sadness. I had trouble adjusting too when I came back - the noise level, being stuck in traffic, the pollution. I wish I could have the best of both worlds - the tranquility of Delft and the gastronomic halal offerings of Malaysia - but that's not how life works.

I'm glad you have found, as the title of your page proffers, a sanctuary from the mad world. :)
flona wrote on Apr 8
I don't mind about the hardship but the moral decay, hypocrisy, and selfishness disturbed me the most.
I agree extremely agree with this portions
bookshop wrote on Apr 8
because of living far apart with my parents.... :(
Yes... that's always hard :(.
bookshop wrote on Apr 8
we're very happy here despite the monotonous life!
Hee...hee... That's why I cautioned that this is perhaps not for everyone. I've heard complaints from people who can't stand the monotonous life just like, I guess, we can't stand the mess. We're lucky to find people who are on the same wave-length, aren't we?
bookshop wrote on Apr 8
tapi cat treats
hihihihihi :D
bookshop wrote on Apr 8, edited on Apr 8
ronn1 said
si "B" temen Jesse itu judulnya mah, sirik !!
Huahahah bener Kung. Jadi sempet ngobrol2 sama Jesse wkt itu, dan dia, yg lebih tau temennya, bilang jgn2 dia sirik. :)). Orang tua emang banyak pengalaman yah *salut*
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bookshop wrote on Apr 8
awam said
kalo ada apa2 staf abah yg dari site office malah yang dateng ke rumah
Yah Abah enak, kantor-rumah deket (malah jadi satu sekarang :p).

Iya sih Bah, hidup di sini gak 100% kayak dongeng kok. Ada aja tantangannya. Cuma kalo diitung untung-rugi untuk kami, yah lebih senang disini. Mungkin untuk org lain belum tentu begini kasusnya.

Thanks yah wishesnya. Kalo mo nginglis, kan tau kirim kemana :D
bookshop wrote on Apr 8
nggak acceptable juga buat yang di mobilnya nggak ada tv dan dvd :p
Betul! Gue nyetir gimana ada TV di mobil :))
bookshop wrote on Apr 8
I can feel your exasperation and sadness
Thanks Tita. This is indeed an emotional piece. I came home with high hopes. Among other things, to prove to my racially-skeptical parents that things will change, starting from my generation. But situation didn't improve. So... :(

bookshop wrote on Apr 8
flona said
I agree extremely agree with this portions
Iye Flo :(
awam wrote on Apr 8
ronn1 said
Gue kira elu beneran mau pindah pas elu cerita dulu; udah gue tunggu-tunggu...ternyataaaa *hiks*
kalo cuman bawa body sih nggak pake pikir2... tinggal hengkang...
tapi banyak yang musti dipikirin bro... tanggungan gw bukan anak bini doank.. ada famili.. dan ada karyawan... ajegile sadis banget gw stelah mrk loyal dg guw bertahun2 trus tau2... cuiiingg maen gw tinggal... kagak tega bro... pada baru punya bayi pula..

kita kan biar jauh dimata tapi dekat di keyboard =))
ronn1 wrote on Apr 8
awam said
kita kan biar jauh dimata tapi dekat di keyboard =))
Aaah...bulan depan juga ketemu :D
makdemplon wrote on Apr 8, edited on Apr 8
Then there's the hypocrisy: people get increasingly religious but that is not reflected in daily lives
I decided to move to germany because my husband could not get a decent job for his profession in Indonesia. Being marked as a 'superwoman' oftenly, sometimes it is nice to be a bit inferior and be the one to 'change the wallpaper'.
Unlike you, it took me about 10 years to call Nürnberg my home, since I had never thought that I'd really settle down here. Though I am happy that I do now. Specially to find some Indonesians who are still behaving like you wrote above, here, I am glad that they are just a tiny group of people that would not influence my life.
I am glad you made the right decision! *hugs* :-)
haffunz wrote on Apr 8
wah Ven, menarik banget tulisan lu... mewakili kata hati he he he tapi emang yang paling penting itu udah sesuai dengan yang lu dan jesse mau... mudah-mudahan kita semua juga pada akhirnya bisa mendapatkan apa yang kita cita-citakan seperti lu >:D< >:D< >:D
bookshop wrote on Apr 8
I decided to move to germany because my husband could not get a decent job for his profession in Indonesia.
Thanks Mbak Isti. 10 years... that must be a really difficult decision for you.
bookshop wrote on Apr 8
haffunz said
mewakili kata hati
Thanks Her :D. Iya bo.. esmosi gue pas baca postingan Tita sama Febih. Jadi keingetan :p.
kucingkembar wrote on Apr 8
a sanctuary from the mad world. :)
Jadi inget buku, "Far from the Madding Crowd."
sintalucia wrote on Apr 8
haffunz said
mudah-mudahan kita semua juga pada akhirnya bisa mendapatkan apa yang kita cita-citakan seperti lu >:D< >:D< >:D
ah, daleem sekaliiii heeeerr >:D
bookshop wrote on Apr 9
Jadi inget buku, "Far from the Madding Crowd."
*google*
chianiago wrote on Apr 9
But if life is only once, I want the best for my life
Hi Ven, kalimat ini dalam sekali..
just wanna share...apa yg terbaik untuk diri sendiri tetap jadi prioritas utama buat kamu biarpun kadang2 mungkin ada pihak2 yg merasa diabaikan/dirugikan saat kita fight utk kepentingan kita..
dalam keadaan demikian apa kamu tetap pd prinsip atau mengalah untuk kepentingan org lain?
Hmm...pengen tau pendapat kamu....tengkiu ya =)
sopjagung wrote on Apr 9
Hi Ven, kalimat ini dalam sekali..
just wanna share...apa yg terbaik untuk diri sendiri tetap jadi prioritas utama buat kamu biarpun kadang2 mungkin ada pihak2 yg merasa diabaikan/dirugikan saat kita fight utk kepentingan kita..
dalam keadaan demikian apa kamu tetap pd prinsip atau mengalah untuk kepentingan org lain?
Hmm...pengen tau pendapat kamu....tengkiu ya =)
Gue (obviously) bukan Venny, tapi jawaban yang masuk akal untuk masalah mengalah atau tidak harus dilihat kasus per kasus dong. Ada banyak parameter yang dapat mempengaruhi keputusan kita seperti siapa orang lain tersebut (orang tua? saudara kandung? keluarga mertua? keluarga besar?), apa yang harus kita korbankan, dan seberapa besar pengaruh keputusan kita.

There is no one-size-fits-all solution if that's what you're looking for :D
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chianiago wrote on Apr 9, edited on Apr 9
Ada banyak parameter yang dapat mempengaruhi keputusan kita
that's right...I did think about all those parameters, and in my case at the end, I decide better to give up for others good...hmmh
btw, thank's for the comment..just agree that "there's no one-size-fits-all solution".
=) nice share.
libelle wrote on Apr 10
Hi Ven (finally I know that's how people call you...)
well, thank goodness this stupid policy to block multiply for the sake of blocking 'Fitna' has stopped, so I can read your blog and chip in.
For the matter of fact, all the things you've written are agreeable.
yet,
it's a little bit one-sided.
no one care sounds too judgmental,
though I agree with your disgusted feeling upon 'sabar aja' advices (since I do too)

leaving this country might be good solution for some people,
but it won't give any good to the left behind problems.
without trying to exclaim nationalism,
somehow, there are still people trying to fix things in certain ways which mostly be taken for granted.

I stand for sopjagung words: there is no one-size-fits-all solution,
choosing to leave problems behind for a good life, is a granted liberty as human being.
for those who have no opportunities to leave problems behind, they have to create their own survival kit, another plug-in tool created for human being to move on with life.
those choices will mutate them into a new variant of human being.

anyway, nice article, thanks for sharing.



sopjagung wrote on Apr 10
Libelle, I'm a little confused with your comments. You said that we, as human beings, have a liberty to choose our own solutions, yet you sounded almost resentful toward those who chose to leave Indonesia. Come on, make up your mind, will you?
bookshop wrote on Apr 10
dalam keadaan demikian apa kamu tetap pd prinsip atau mengalah untuk kepentingan org lain?
Hmm... harus dilihat kasus per kasus kali yah? Specifically untuk kasus ini, gue milih untuk mentingin diri sendiri dan ninggalin problem2 di Jakarta (macet, polusi, korupsi, etc). Untuk satu case specific lain yg gue belon bisa bilang, gue jelas2 mengalah untuk kepentingan org yg deket dengan gue. Jadi... seperti Sop bilang, bener2 case to case :D
bookshop wrote on Apr 10, edited on Apr 10
Gue (obviously) bukan Venny,
Obviously not Sop :D. Lo kurang cantik :D
bookshop wrote on Apr 10, edited on Apr 10
libelle said
it's a little bit one-sided.
Hi Libelle,

So the block is off? Great! That's a relief. :D

It is of course one sided because it's my perspective, my story. Leaving the country is a good choice for me. The feeling of 'no one cares' was the feeling I had given my crowd and my environ. Indeed, there are those who try to fix things (like the owner of one of the links I provided) and I admire these people greatly. However, I can't. I am honest to say I can't (and I don't care to lie to everyone's face for the sake of politically-correct message).

I personally believe that, if the efforts made to improve are real, everyone will appreciate it and not take these tremendous efforts for granted. People are quite easy to please :D.

Like I said at the end of the article, I do not mean to advocate leaving overseas, let alone suggesting that it's for everyone. Everyone has a choice, I made mine based on things I went through. Maybe I didn't see enough but I did try and the experience wasn't sufficiently good to make me stay. Others, such as yourself, may have a different experience. Good for these people, too!

Thanks for the comment :D
ronn1 wrote on Apr 10
Obviously not Sop :D. Lo kurang cantik :D
Hahahah....yang ini elo pasti bener 100% Ven *asli ngakak*
yohanesb wrote on Apr 10
Hitting a motorcycle is a cardinal sin, regardless of who is at fault.
Betul banget Ven. Life is only one and want the best for your life. Semua itu pilihan, and pilihlah yang terbaik.

Gua baca ini beberapa kali dan senyum aja karena byk yg lu tulis gua jg pernah alami / sempet pikir, e.g. kalo di jkt mikirnya macet dan hindari jalan ini soalnya ada kapak merah, kalo di luar mikirnya mmhh.. malem gua mau nyoba apa ya, ato ke rumah sapa ato mo ke seminar apa, etc hehe..

Dan yg soal hitting motorcycle, gila ya, it is such a priviledge to be a motorcyclist, come to think of it. gua cerita ke colleague expat sama soal ini, kalo nyerempet atau lu di serempet motor, lu urusan ama satu kampung :))
Despite all, gua memilih balik juga akhirnya Ven :)) long thought, but here I am. Kalo sempet ke sini, let me know ya, mesti ketemu and have a good cup of! :))
kucingkembar wrote on Apr 11, edited on Apr 11
V,
karena udah diumpanin 'cat treats', jadi bisa mikir... :P

Respon gue ini lebih lebar mungkin dari keluhan elo soal Jakarta yang makin tidak punya nurani. Kemarin2 moyas menayangkan artikel yang mempertanyakan apakah di Indonesia itu yang terjadi sebenarnya 'disaster' atau 'mass murder' karena kalau dihitung-hitung, orang2 Indonesia yang tewas karena kecelakaan pesawat/kapal tenggelam/kereta api tumbur2an itu sangat besar dan bukan karena 'bencana' tapi akibat ketidakberesan pemerintahan yang kalau diusut-usut larinya ke korupsi. Artikel ini mempertanyakan juga kenapa orang Indonesia tidak "outraged" dan "demand the govt. to be accountable" etc. Is there an outrage? If there is, how come it is not materialized into something concrete?

Lalu beberapa hari yang lalu ada berita soal Slank bikin lagu yang ngeledek DPR dan lain2 kekacauan di negara kita. DPR angot, mau menuntut Slank. Rakyat mengawe-awe mendukung Slank. Dan setelah itu langsung ada anggota DPR yang ditangkap karena tertuduh korupsi. Kalau baca berita di kompas hari ini tentang lanjutan kisah anggota DPR yang "malang" ini, sudah ada 48 komentar yang mencela dia. So, the outrage is clearly out there! And this song echoes it! (I bet it will be a top hit very very soon).

Yang membesarkan hati, tampaknya kita bisa sedikit berharap pada Komisi Pemberantasan Korupsi. Mudah2an mereka bisa menjalankan tugas dengan baik dan menjadi "pelita nurani bangsa". Mudah2an bisa terus merengsek dan merobek kejumudan hingga ada celah bagi terang. Mungkin KPK nantinya bisa jadi model bagaimana bangsa kita bisa mulai menata diri.

Tantangan buat elo dan gue sekarang adalah bagaimana kita yang tinggal jauh dari tanah air kampung halaman bisa ikut turun tangan secara konkrit untuk memperbanyak "celah bagi terang" itu. Mmmm... mungkin kerja2 yang basisnya internet bisa jadi jawaban.
kucingkembar wrote on Apr 11, edited on Apr 11
ps kalau gue lagi ingat "bangsa saya yang menyebalkan" ini, gue ingat-ingat lagi: kok bisa ya... industri film kita berkembang dari Doni-Kasino-Indro (misalnya) ke Mengejar Mas Mas, atau Get Married, atau Berbagi Suami. There is a learning curve there!

Ya, gue mencoba untuk berbesar hati lah saat ini.....

salam maniiiis.... :P
kucing, the incurable optimist.
bookshop wrote on Apr 11
Despite all, gua memilih balik juga akhirnya Ven :)) long thought, but here I am
Exactly!! Some people do come back for whatever reason. Good or bad, no one can judge coz it's each person's unique experience.

PS: Jelas! Kalo pulang pasti gue cari elo, gak seperti kemaren itu :">
bookshop wrote on Apr 11
soal Jakarta yang makin tidak punya nurani.
Ibu Kota kan lebih kejam dari ibu tiri :P.

Elo ngucapin keyword, yg gue gak sempet singgung di tulisan gue (udah panjang bo!): JAKARTA. Kalo gue bisa tinggal di luar kota, gue bakal milih pindah ke luar kota daripada luar negeri karena kualitas hidup di luar (untuk hal2 yg gak bisa gue tolerir) itu kayaknya lebih baik di daerah. Cuma yah itu... gak ada kerjaan untuk gue di sono :D

Soal hal2 yg membesarkan hati, memang benernya gitu. Banyak temen2 gue yg sekolah jauh2 kemana2, ujung2nya pulang dan bener2 main2 di dept.2 yg bisa bikin perubahan. Itu membuat gue optimis. Tapi masih kecil banget porsinya:(. Gue merasa perubahan yg nyata mungkin (pesimistically speaking, of course) gak akan dinikmati oleh generasi gue. Kalo untuk generasi ke depan, tentu ada harapan :D
berthacantik wrote on Apr 11
I was eager, young
Looohhh .. emang sekarang dah tua ?? :P .. Jangan gitu dong ..gue berasa tua jadinya .. * apa sehhh *

Ah.. gue tadinya juga mikir gue bisa survive tinggal di Jkt, gue pikir, gue gak tinggalin Jkt lama2 amat .. pasti bisa lah ...

Eeehh ..ternyata bow .. gue harus adjust banyak, dan yang gue bikin kaget ternyata gak mampu gue menyesuaikan diri balik ke cara hidup di Jakarta. Sempet stress, karena gue pikir gue yang salah enggak bisa balik ke cara hidup Jakarta. Untungnya Danny ngeh kalau gue stress out, dia yang ber-initiative utk pindah. Pindah pun enggak akhirnya semua masalah selesai, ada ajaa masalah.., tapi untung so far kita berdua survive ..

So .. here we are .. kayaknya gak ada yang kita sesalin. Ada rasa bersalah dikit karena orang tua gue jadi gak punya sapa2 di Jakarta .. Tapi gimana dong ?? Pusing ya
bookshop wrote on Apr 11
Ada rasa bersalah dikit karena orang tua gue jadi gak punya sapa2 di Jakarta .. Tapi gimana dong ?? Pusing ya
Ember.. kalo pun ada penyesalan, ya cuma ini. Cuma, sama seperti elo.. Gimana dunk ??? :D :D D
kucingkembar wrote on Apr 11
Ember.. kalo pun ada penyesalan, ya cuma ini. Cuma, sama seperti elo.. Gimana dunk ??? :D :D D
Kalau ingat ini, yang hebat sebenarnya juga orang tua ya.... rela melepas anaknya hidup jauh dari mereka. Ini bikin inget gue tentang posting elo jaman baheula, V... tentang punya anak/tidak.... :P
ronn1 wrote on Apr 12
Ada rasa bersalah dikit karena orang tua gue jadi gak punya sapa2 di Jakarta ..
Hehehe.... nyokap dan adek gue dong tinggal di Perth :p
berthacantik wrote on Apr 13
ronn1 said
Hehehe.... nyokap dan adek gue dong tinggal di Perth :p
Enggak nanya .. ada yang nanya .. ??
yohanesb wrote on Apr 14
Good or bad, no one can judge coz it's each person's unique experience.
Absolutely :)) coming back in fact is the better choice for me despite all. btw, racism itu kerasa gak Ven di tempat lo? I know you wrote about this long before, tapi mungkin lu easily adjusted ya, and faktor2 positive lainnya override this ya.

Lo kalo balik ntar gua ajak makan buffet japanese di poke sushi yg di Crowne Plaza. lu suka Jap kan? :)) kalo gak dapur babah dah pernah? gua cravingnya makanan indo melulu: gado2, ketoprak, tahu gejrot, nasgorkam :)
bookshop wrote on Apr 15
btw, racism itu kerasa gak Ven di tempat lo?
Racism.... That's a complex thing dan gue merasa racism ada di mana2 selama manusia adalah manusia (cieee). Kuncinya buat gue mungkin bukan adjusting tapi lebih ke 'gak dirasaiin' aja. Racism, chauvinism, mah semua komplit juga di sini dan sebel juga sih kadang2 harus bekerja dua kali lebih keras untuk kompensasi bhw gue: a. Asia, b. cewek, c. dari negara terbelakang tapi yah.. it's not impossible :D

Hihihi.. Sip, sip. Belon tuh ke dapur babah. Bakal gue inget deh, thanks! :D
yohanesb wrote on Apr 15
That's a complex thing dan gue merasa racism ada di mana2 selama manusia adalah manusia (cieee).
That's true. Kalo ada hal negatif yg major selama tinggal di LN (Western) ya itu sih yg gua rasa, spt yg lu blg. Salah satu point saja udah cukup buat mrk utk prejudice. Tp yah untungnya faktor2 positip lainnya mendukung (e.g lu travel effortlessly ke milan, makan di nobu, no macet, etc hahaha). Jia You, Ven!
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